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When a theist tells me that it's quite impossible for me to have any form of morality, it makes me want to vomit blood. The sheer lack of social understanding necessary to even begin to say this is astounding.
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:iconx-wanderer-x:
Ugh, I've been having an argument over this for a long time now with a theist. It's like he's pushing a gun at me and expecting me to shoot somebody. Empathy is apparently a difficult thing to grasp.

His most recent response was that you need Christ in order to love. :facepalm:
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~Markuskus555 Mar 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
It makes you question, sometimes, if there's any point, doesn't it? :(
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:iconx-wanderer-x:
Yes, but the prospect of a world in which we have transcended such ignoble and petty beliefs makes it worth the headache. :P
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~Ddraigtanto Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I saw another one of these kind of images in the past which I believe sums up the perfect argument to make against the whole "non-religious people are immoral", and that is: If you are immoral, you do not lack religion, you lack empathy.

I just thought that might be an interesting two cents to throw into the pile.
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~Markuskus555 Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Mhm, that's quite cool.

It reminds me of a Facebook comment I once saw that said roughly "You atheists are despicable! If I wasn't a Christian, there'd be nothing to stop me murdering every one of you! So how can you control yourselves without God? The answer is you can't!"
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~Ddraigtanto Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Interesting.
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~Ask-War Nov 15, 2012  Professional Artist
There was morality before religion. Even in areas where there isn't religion, they have morals. It may not be what a religion says morals should be, and it may not fit your morals, but they are still morals none the less.
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The question is a bit more complicated. While I like your picture, and agree with it 100%, I think that militant, rabid athieists are just as much a problem as militant, rabid theists.

Simply put, it's rude to accost a stranger and tell him that his god-concept (or lack thereof) is wrong and yours is right.

Also, Alain de Botton makes a good case for religions serving a useful role as a social institution, independent from the nonsensical supernatural dogma. In "Religion for Atheists: A Non-believer's Guide to the Uses of Religion" he lays out benefits to society and individual psychological well-being that are historically associated with religious institutions, but not intrinsically linked. He asserts that atheism has thrown the baby out with the bathwater, and that atheism ought to reincorporate certain traditions while still leaving the supernatural woo-woo behind. It's a good read.
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May I link you to a response to this?
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~Markuskus555 Aug 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Of course you may!
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